tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post151018417109958621..comments2024-03-21T00:30:32.509-07:00Comments on From A Left Wing: Nike tells girls watching the World Cup: You don't count.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-74096259145932441552011-07-18T07:23:46.809-07:002011-07-18T07:23:46.809-07:00Also in the spirit of Nike and ignoring girls, the...Also in the spirit of Nike and ignoring girls, they sold replica jerseys only in women's sizes. Fortunately the ran ridiculously small, so my 10 yo niece was adequately uniformed. Even still, no kids' shirts? My 7 and 5 yo nieces were s.o.l.NMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516588434189144387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-86101511664809947322010-07-05T19:35:42.654-07:002010-07-05T19:35:42.654-07:00Clearly, this ad implies that the boys in the ad a...Clearly, this ad implies that the boys in the ad are the future members of the US Men's National Team. The boys depicted are not meant to be a cross-section of the team's fans.<br /><br />By definition, there can't be girls on the men's team. So I don't find anything offensive or insensitive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-38720684218831907482010-07-05T10:39:34.835-07:002010-07-05T10:39:34.835-07:00I've been following the discussion here about ...I've been following the discussion here about this ad and took your suggestions to write both US Soccer and Nike. Earlier today, one of my favorite soccer site posted this ad and asked for people's thoughts and I was glad to see that almost immediately, fans were criticizing the lack of female players and fans in the video. <br /><br />http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/07/an-ode-to-the-usa-world-cup-team.htmlLJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13754730679190445772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-10767123104862530212010-07-04T09:52:50.838-07:002010-07-04T09:52:50.838-07:00There is little difference in soccer between young...There is little difference in soccer between young players and fans - my point is that a national team doesn't play for one half of the country.Jennifer Doylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004554513454749517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-13006311438810172412010-07-02T21:52:54.381-07:002010-07-02T21:52:54.381-07:00Have to agree with Whitehart on this one. If there...Have to agree with Whitehart on this one. If there was an ad showing girls after 1999 WC I would have no problem. So I should have no problem with this... it's young male payers, not fans.Gringos at the Gatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09294111651679416517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-840799801021377082010-07-02T09:59:13.906-07:002010-07-02T09:59:13.906-07:00I saw your comment up last night. Interesting tha...I saw your comment up last night. Interesting that it's not there, but the ones telling you to not be a victim remain.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03601273053067623237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-20284145998864956742010-07-02T09:31:48.688-07:002010-07-02T09:31:48.688-07:00Am I missing something? I posted a comment on the ...Am I missing something? I posted a comment on the NMT blog about the ad - saying basically girls and women support the team too, and that many of us were hurt by this ad. But it's not visible. Hmm.Jennifer Doylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004554513454749517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-59739968552083946142010-07-02T06:28:41.720-07:002010-07-02T06:28:41.720-07:00My wife and I have both written numerous emails to...My wife and I have both written numerous emails to Nike regarding the USMNT and sexism. Nike doesn't make official USMNT jerseys in womens sizes, but only in mens and boys. Since my wife wanted to support both teams, she wanted a jersey for the MNT. We emailed asking if they had a line, but we've yet to receive any substantive responses. Just emails thanking us for our interest in the USMNT.<br /><br /> I'm ashamed to wear the Nike swoosh when I'm supporting my national teams so I buy my soccer shirts from Who Are Ya designs and Objectivio. <br /><br />This ad seems like a textbook case of the sort of sexism Nike peddles. It divides fandom into male and female segments. Boys are supposed to support the MNT and girls the WNT. What's not sexist about that?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14492050686702106431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-18907753277668813332010-07-02T05:24:11.976-07:002010-07-02T05:24:11.976-07:00Also, sorry to comment twice in a row, but I just ...Also, sorry to comment twice in a row, but I just remembered <a href="http://www.ussoccer.com/Social/MNT-Blog.aspx?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&UID=1a697a53-a181-4302-aa61-f454d97c88fd&plckPostId=Blog%3a1a697a53-a181-4302-aa61-f454d97c88fdPost%3a691af117-45ef-4f68-897d-5d334c798da4&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest" rel="nofollow">this post from the MNT blog.</a> She's part of the "next generation," and she's nowhere to be found in that ad.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03601273053067623237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-12807293850989269082010-07-02T05:05:05.521-07:002010-07-02T05:05:05.521-07:00Hey, thanks for the link! Even leaving aside the ...Hey, thanks for the link! Even leaving aside the gender issues, people were talking about this ad like it was some amazing breakthrough, and ... no. It's cheap sentiment and cliches about "playing like an American" and how we don't dive. The fact that Nike appears to think inspiration and pride divides neatly along gender lines just makes it worse.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03601273053067623237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-74295033190836971532010-07-01T21:14:14.507-07:002010-07-01T21:14:14.507-07:00"As a male supporter of the US Women's Na..."As a male supporter of the US Women's National Team, I'd expect a similar Nike ad after the Women's World Cup to exclude boys."<br /><br />See, and the thing for me is (as another male supporter of the women's game), if that happened it'd be OK, because women and transfolk are so regularly shut out of anything involving sport especially when it involves a big corporation like Nike, that having space/depictions/ads (if we have to have ads) with just women is GREAT. It expands the realm of what's possible and lifts up people who have been systematically denied visibility and existence for far too long. On the other hand, soccer being just about dudes, with depictions of only dudes is OLD and I'm sick of it. It is also just not as fun or entertaining.Jaimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05951423365561529305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-25712291467962340082010-07-01T20:54:42.976-07:002010-07-01T20:54:42.976-07:00Hmmm... While I agree that it is poor marketing, I...Hmmm... While I agree that it is poor marketing, I think you might be overstating the case a bit. More than sexist, it just seems narrow-minded to me. As a male supporter of the US Women's National Team, I'd expect a similar Nike ad after the Women's World Cup to exclude boys. It's neither right nor wrong, just shortsighted corporate-think.timothy deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895837371823496873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-38594673204352261762010-07-01T20:42:31.219-07:002010-07-01T20:42:31.219-07:00It's a pretty ad, but without any real depth. ...It's a pretty ad, but without any real depth. Clearly scripted, that takes away from the fundamental point of the video (...that American soccer don't need to be forced to watch soccer anymore). Ok. Then why blatantly script it?<br /><br />Nike doesn't appear to have gone to much effort to find real soccer fans, they created characterizations of their impression of American soccer fans. Normally that wouldn't bother me, as it is a commercial, but since it's supposed to be a Thank You from the Heart of Real Americans...a bit more documentary style would have been nice.<br /><br />Have the US MNT and WNT ever done a Nike ad together? Or has that relationship always been two beds, one room?On the Ballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16643463912133593840noreply@blogger.com