tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post2305374954074859195..comments2024-03-21T00:30:32.509-07:00Comments on From A Left Wing: One Nation, Indivisible?: Rebranding American History (#redallover)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-15332008699520408722011-04-01T06:46:45.551-07:002011-04-01T06:46:45.551-07:00@Brit: Dirty Tackle's readers are welcome here...@Brit: Dirty Tackle's readers are welcome here! And Robert: Hilarious! Though I think problem I have with some of the fan-culture around the USMNT is a kindof outdated antagonism w/ England - outdated because that's an old world relation that is only one thin slice of the colonial history for the US, and because England just isn't a worthy rival these days! <br /><br />And, readers: at some point I'll be posting a rant about what looks like it might be the women's shirt - which looks like a nurses's uniform.Jennifer Doylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004554513454749517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-32959696361811737802011-04-01T05:31:51.856-07:002011-04-01T05:31:51.856-07:00meh, shite reasons in my opinion. DTOM has always...meh, shite reasons in my opinion. DTOM has always been a great motto. England still calls us the colonies, most teams don't worry about us still. So be it, settle score, touch me again for the words you will hear ever more! DON'T TREAD ON ME!<br />Screw the people who whine and complain about the motto. Really. If you can't reference the history to it because some political group uses the same thing, go play lacrosse.poorscouserbobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16662302724109550968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-40890126427821728512011-03-31T23:56:23.708-07:002011-03-31T23:56:23.708-07:00I love it! but I just wanna say I'm so sorry t...I love it! but I just wanna say I'm so sorry that a yahoo blog has linked to you, you're bound to get inundated with all sorts of comments...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14197786240801484949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-3332569142691618162011-03-30T13:27:46.734-07:002011-03-30T13:27:46.734-07:00@Murfmensch Always a pleasure to have your comment...@Murfmensch Always a pleasure to have your comments on this blog. I love that Zizek interview, smart, honest and hilarious.Jennifer Doylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004554513454749517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-46172737839130262182011-03-30T08:45:06.235-07:002011-03-30T08:45:06.235-07:00A German friend asked me why our politicians talk ...A German friend asked me why our politicians talk about "unity" so often. He's from a country that often de-links national identity from patriotism. There was an open debate over whether or not the enthusiasm for their MNT was a good thing or not. <br /><br />This blog (the best) linked me to a video clip of Slavoj Zizek, who usually frustrates me but had a very good point. International Soccer hedges against a crude ethnic nationalism. Slovenija cannot assemble a competitive eleven and stick to a right-wing definition of Slovenian. <br /><br />The NPD in Germany, composed of dissembling fascists, issued a poster with a Black German national player and the slogan "White isn't just the color of the jersey!" <br /><br />When the US team plays, some fans learn where Ghana and Slovenija are and we end up saying things like "You can't underestimate so-and-so." <br /><br />When sport is good (besides those times when it is beautiful) that is mostly an accident. Such accidents are generated by this blog and ought to be generated by sporting federations.Murfmenschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00031877154740991965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-20167636418099622932011-03-29T23:08:27.592-07:002011-03-29T23:08:27.592-07:00@michaelddwyer Spot-on analysis - thank you for po...@michaelddwyer Spot-on analysis - thank you for posting it!<br /><br />@amoral, funny & weird blog.<br /><br />@dagaita - thank you for catching the type o!Jennifer Doylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004554513454749517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-26894168424813316492011-03-29T12:25:17.286-07:002011-03-29T12:25:17.286-07:00Franklin's suggestion re: felons was from 1751...Franklin's suggestion re: felons was from 1751, not 1851 (when he was long dead).Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14334567751763707571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-69280136295033928602011-03-28T09:26:41.199-07:002011-03-28T09:26:41.199-07:00One of the great ironies of the Tea Party appropri...One of the great ironies of the Tea Party appropriation of the colonial rattlesnake imagery (and one of the reasons why it was so appropriate for US Soccer) was that it was an explicit argument for Federalism--a strong centralized government to unite the disparate interests of the colonies. "Join or Die" is an explicit argument against the "states' rights" or "limited government" interests of many Tea Partiers, but it's an incredibly apt slogan for the fractured and distinctly un-unified US soccer landscape.<br /><br />I'm okay with "Indivisible" (would have preferred "Out of Many, One" if only for stylistic reasons), though if I think about it I don't know if I actually believe in them as slogans. At least it wasn't "Manifest Destiny" or "Mission Accomplished" I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-44090457293593648542011-03-28T02:49:57.160-07:002011-03-28T02:49:57.160-07:00Initially I raised my eyebrows, but now I must adm...Initially I raised my eyebrows, but now I must admit that I like the new motto. I think people need to develop more solidarity and team spirit, these days, and Sport should serve that purpose.<br /><br />Do you remember when they had to change their renowned slogan "JUST DO IT" because of the Church interference?<br /><br />http://kiwileaks.org/page/3/<br /><br />I hope Pope Ratzinger will like it this time!<br />Cheers, JulyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12891940609272083282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-69995093880514051732011-03-27T22:42:50.264-07:002011-03-27T22:42:50.264-07:00Thanks for commenting! I've also seen this: So...Thanks for commenting! I've also seen this: Somehow I think the inclusion of the logo on the inside of the Jersey proves the point even more starkly. It's so strongly identified with the team (e.g. Dempsey's awesome rap video 'Don't Tread on This') that there'd have to be a darn'd good reason to "rebrand" the team with a campaign like #redallover. Wahl's suggestion is the best explanation I've seen - "Indivisible" is a really good result!Jennifer Doylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05004554513454749517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6165780438929797577.post-67887640287066670632011-03-27T15:29:43.360-07:002011-03-27T15:29:43.360-07:00I think you have some good thoughts on the politic...I think you have some good thoughts on the politics of branding. However, from pictures I've seen of the red jersey, the DTOM snake is still on the inside of the jersey. I think the Indivisible moniker is just another PR move while DTOM will remain the motto of the team. At least, that's as far as I can tell.Cap'n A-Habhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09342568571579872809noreply@blogger.com